All-In E80: Recession deep dive: VC psychology, macro risks, Tiger Global, predictions and more
Episode 80 • 5/13/2022
Key Discussion Points:
Market Context & Causes
- Chamath explains there's been a 0.92 correlation between Fed money printing and S&P 500 growth from 2018 until Q4 2021
- About $35 trillion in global market value destroyed in 5 months, representing 14% of global wealth
- Unlike 2008 which primarily affected financial institutions, this downturn is impacting all asset classes
Tiger Global & Crossover Funds
- Tiger Global's new $12.7B fund is already nearly depleted
- Many crossover funds like D1/CO2 are sitting on sidelines until market stabilizes
- Discussion of Tiger Global's struggles with hedge fund down 45% through April
Advice for Founders
- Sacks outlines key metrics founders need to focus on:
- Growth needs to be doubling year over year
- Gross margins should be minimum 50%
- CAC payback within 1 year
- Burn multiple ideally 1x or less
- Companies need 2-3 years runway vs previous 12-month cycles
- Founders need to seriously consider repricing options and addressing employee compensation
Market Bottom Predictions
- Michael Burry analysis suggests only halfway through typical volume turnover needed to find bottom
- Fed in difficult position with inflation at 8% but fed funds rate only at 1%
- Real fed funds rate at negative 7% due to delayed Fed response
- Friedberg warns of potential consumer credit bubble forming as spending habits haven't adjusted
Notable Quotes:
Chamath on fund performance: "Out of 1,276 funds over $1B since 1994, only 22 have managed to return more than 2.3x"
Sacks on company building: "Great companies are built during downturns. PayPal was built during the dot com crash. My company, Yammer was built during the Great Recession."